Comments on: Dr Tiller’s murder http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/ Sharing ideas and provocations on living single while happy. Reflecting on the social psychology of stereotypes and other cultural phenomena. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:46:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rachel http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3072 Rachel Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:28:26 +0000 http://www.rabe.org/?p=906#comment-3072 I am not quite sure how you'd go about doing that: Teaching everybody to perform abortions. That's like suggesting that everybody should learn how to repair their own teeth... I am not quite sure how you’d go about doing that: Teaching everybody to perform abortions. That’s like suggesting that everybody should learn how to repair their own teeth…

]]> By: the lamp http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3069 the lamp Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:47:30 +0000 http://www.rabe.org/?p=906#comment-3069 Democratize abortions. Forget government aid. Everyone should know how to kill a fetus, then it will be unstoppable. I know this is unpleasant but relying upon bourgeois doctors means that there will be only a handful of rockstar doctors who anti-abortion fanatics can concentrate upon and eliminate. Democratize abortions. Forget government aid. Everyone should know how to kill a fetus, then it will be unstoppable. I know this is unpleasant but relying upon bourgeois doctors means that there will be only a handful of rockstar doctors who anti-abortion fanatics can concentrate upon and eliminate.

]]> By: Rachel http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3027 Rachel Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:39:51 +0000 http://www.rabe.org/?p=906#comment-3027 I don't know... As I stare at the Gallup charts I am wondering if this is some sort of data error. The pro-choice numbers have been consistently been above 45% and the anti-choice below 45% and now in 2009, they switch dramatically? Seems odd to me. If there had been a downward trend in the pro-life support during the Bush years, it would make more sense. But why this dramatic and unprecedented drop? The top graph also doesn't seem to be consistent with the graphs below it. On the other hand, they mention other surveys: "Americans' recent shift toward the pro-life position is confirmed in two other surveys." And <blockquote> The source of the shift in abortion views is clear in the Gallup Values and Beliefs survey. The percentage of Republicans (including independents who lean Republican) calling themselves "pro-life" rose by 10 points over the past year, from 60% to 70%, while there has been essentially no change in the views of Democrats and Democratic leaners. </blockquote> Why?!? That's a big shift all the sudden. I guess that's your point: The anti-choice people are coming out of the wood-works but wouldn't that have shown up on previous surveys? I mean, assuming that Gallup does the surveying right, their samples are representative samples. And people couldn't just hide... Here's what Gallup speculates: <blockquote> It is possible that, through his abortion policies, Obama has pushed the public's understanding of what it means to be "pro-choice" slightly to the left, politically. While Democrats may support that, as they generally support everything Obama is doing as president, it may be driving others in the opposite direction. </blockquote> Still seems odd... I don’t know… As I stare at the Gallup charts I am wondering if this is some sort of data error. The pro-choice numbers have been consistently been above 45% and the anti-choice below 45% and now in 2009, they switch dramatically? Seems odd to me. If there had been a downward trend in the pro-life support during the Bush years, it would make more sense. But why this dramatic and unprecedented drop? The top graph also doesn’t seem to be consistent with the graphs below it.

On the other hand, they mention other surveys: “Americans’ recent shift toward the pro-life position is confirmed in two other surveys.” And

The source of the shift in abortion views is clear in the Gallup Values and Beliefs survey. The percentage of Republicans (including independents who lean Republican) calling themselves “pro-life” rose by 10 points over the past year, from 60% to 70%, while there has been essentially no change in the views of Democrats and Democratic leaners.

Why?!? That’s a big shift all the sudden. I guess that’s your point: The anti-choice people are coming out of the wood-works but wouldn’t that have shown up on previous surveys? I mean, assuming that Gallup does the surveying right, their samples are representative samples. And people couldn’t just hide…

Here’s what Gallup speculates:

It is possible that, through his abortion policies, Obama has pushed the public’s understanding of what it means to be “pro-choice” slightly to the left, politically. While Democrats may support that, as they generally support everything Obama is doing as president, it may be driving others in the opposite direction.

Still seems odd…

]]> By: Rachel http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3025 Rachel Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:40:39 +0000 http://www.rabe.org/?p=906#comment-3025 Thanks Wiebes & Elsie! This is interesting, though disconcerting, data... Thanks Wiebes & Elsie! This is interesting, though disconcerting, data…

]]> By: Wiebes http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3023 Wiebes Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:00:51 +0000 http://www.rabe.org/?p=906#comment-3023 Backup for previous post - very interesting indeed! http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx Backup for previous post – very interesting indeed!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx

]]> By: Singletude http://www.rabe.org/dr-tillers-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3020 Singletude Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:44:57 +0000 http://www.rabe.org/?p=906#comment-3020 To lend support for your theory, I read today that polls show that <a>more Americans are now pro-life than pro-choice</a>. Anytime you have a polarizing administration in place, the opposition will be motivated to circle the wagons and redouble their forces. That's not meant to detract in any way from all the good that the Obama administration is doing, but it is an unfortunate fallout. To lend support for your theory, I read today that polls show that more Americans are now pro-life than pro-choice. Anytime you have a polarizing administration in place, the opposition will be motivated to circle the wagons and redouble their forces. That’s not meant to detract in any way from all the good that the Obama administration is doing, but it is an unfortunate fallout.

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